Re: literary criticism

Oh God, now I have to read those. Seems I remember getting annoyed with
Nabokov a few years back when he dismissed a fellow critic with the
least of thought...I believe what you're saying, just haven't read much
of him in this area.

Jim

Kim Johnson wrote:

>i agree he was a prolific critic. but i don't think
>he had much respect for anyone's criticism except his
>own.
>
>the collected interviews with nabokov which he himself
>put out are quite revealing .
>
>especially delicious are his responses to critics'
>assessments of his own work.
>
>kim
>
>--- James Rovira <jrovira@drew.edu> wrote:
>
>
>>I don't know -- Nabokov was a pretty prolific critic
>>himself and his
>>message about critics/criticism in _Pale Fire_
>>seemed a bit, oh,
>>ambivalent at worst. While the Russian critic was
>>reinventing the
>>American poem in his own image -- to the point where
>>the author of the
>>poem was literally sacrificed to save the critic --
>>the American poem
>>was about baseball and everyday life in America,
>>while the Russian
>>critic's poem was about a monarch in hiding,
>>political intrigue,
>>assasination attempts...the stuff that very
>>interesting stories are made of.
>>
>>Fact is the critic's personal story was more
>>interesting than the poet's.
>>
>>I wished he'd just found another way to tell it :).
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>Kim Johnson wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>i don't know the source, but agree with jim's
>>>suggestion.
>>>
>>>nabokov--now there's a writer with utter disdain
>>>
>>>
>>for
>>
>>
>>>critics. (unless it's the case of 'eugene onegin'
>>>
>>>
>>and
>>
>>
>>>he himself is the man for the job.)
>>>
>>>kim
>>>
>>>--- James Rovira <jrovira@drew.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Heh...if it's not from Nabokov's _Pale Fire_ it
>>>>
>>>>
>>sure
>>
>>
>>>>as heck should be :)
>>>>
>>>>Jim
>>>>
>>>>John P Baumgardner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I haven't paid close enough attention to all of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>the
>>
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>postings here to use
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>this quote as a response, but it is undoubtedly
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>relevant to that lengthy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>conversation that transpired several weeks ago.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>I
>>
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>will not place the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>source yet, but am very interested in how long it
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>will take someone to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>place it. I mostly desire to know how popular is
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>this book which I am
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>currently enjoying.
>>>>>
>>>>>"In literary criticism the critic has no choice
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>but
>>
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>to make over the victim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>of his attention into something the size and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>shape
>>
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>of himself."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>It is entirely more enjoyable in its context than
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>by itself.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>And while I'm making a far less than frequent
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>posting, I have another
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>thought. Pertaining to the "Franny and Zooey"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>conversation, I recently
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>read the jacket of the hardback (2nd Ed.) of F&Z.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>I was wondering who else
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>had access to this little letter from J.D.S. and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>how they feel it affects
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>the whole debate?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>J.P. Baumgardner
>>>>>
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