Re: what is your fish? A fry?

Good lord, Daniel, can't you even make a good point without referring to
worn out stereotypes? :). Milquetoast? Fish? Hardly. He annoys me to
tears sometimes but I would never accuse him of that.

Seriously, though, I think Fish's problem was that he failed to
distinguish between "spoken" communication and "written." What you are
calling "good old communication" is simply speech -- speech that follows
recognizable local patters and, as a result, is quite easily understood
by locals. Written communication for a mass audience, though, that's
another fish to fry entirely...and Fish has a point about that.

But if I were talking to some of your buddies, I bet I'd have a bit of a
hard time understanding them at least sometimes. Heck, I went to
England and had a hard time with the language there -- I was told to
bear right at the "poo-show garriage" to get to a certain hotel. What
the heck was that?

Two days later I saw the Peugot car dealership. The garage.

Yes, in many ways Fish is a model postmodernist, but not for the reasons
you describe. I really don't see him as much of a postmodernist,
really, but just a good old cultural relativist.

The sub/ship discussion has been pretty interesting...I love actually
learning things.

Jim

Yocum Daniel GS 21 CES/CEOE wrote:

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> There appears, thank God, to be at least one exception.
>
> Scottie B.
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>
>
>Yes, the furniture of language is necessarry for clear comminication and
>many disrespectfully kick their feet up on a stranger's coffee table without
>any thought, it does not automatically follow that all they wish to
>communicate is opionion or 'self expression'. I know that my technique is
>in desperate need of improvement, but I can still communicate in the mean
>time. Not everyone wants to be initiated into the lodge. To my left I see
>the free verse of an incomprhensible shotgun blast and to my right I see the
>nice neat thin red line holding back those wode vestooned bar-bari
>assualting the Forum.
>
>Jim, John and your comments about over generalization apply here. I am glad
>that I am from the ol' west with the Indian, the Spaniard, the Frenchie
>trapper, the Texas trapper and the English settler, all taking a stroll in
>the plaza, not because of the 'wonder' of denigrated 'self expression' or
>lowly opinion but rather that old fashioned communication. Written, spoken
>(a hodge podge of over 6 languages), wild gesticulations, or even a blow on
>the nose, it's all good. Ya , we're hybrid bastards of a mother whore, but
>if you say that I'll bust you in the mouth. That is Fish's saving grace he
>expresses himself quite well without worrying about those hand wriinging
>milquetoasts.
>
>
>Daniel
>shaking my fist in your face
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