Thank GOD Wordsworth wasn't the only English Romantic Poet :) I always thought he was Up to Here in Feces. I much prefer Blake -- more honest, more real, more thoughtful, plenty of ideas without idealism. Blake also provides a good paradigm for the growth out of innocence. While we do pass through experience (disillusionment, selfishness, etc) we do not have to stay there. We can enter into the Old John state, where we attain an informed innocence once again. If you want to give Wordsworth some credibility, I would say we pass out of a "body-centered" experience into something less "physically" passionate into something more thoughtful, directed, and "effectively" passionate. In short, we know what we want, value, and how to serve those ends in the real world. We accept limitations and work within them; and when we're really experienced, we use them to our advantage. In short, we learn how to win and how not to defeat ourselves. At least, we CAN know :) We can also stay Stupid our entire lives... Jim <<Wordsworth was (I think) the one who said that genius is childhood rediscovered at will; while I don't wholly subscribe to this early Victorian form of child-worship I have barely found anything to refute it so far. Maybe this is an early-20s type of thing. Sometimes I wonder if and when I become a parent (hopefully many years from now) it will all change, but I fear, as I have found with so many things, that the anticipation doesn't match the fulfilment. Camille>> ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]