I don't know, Scottie. Reading your post here I had mixed feelings. I agree with what's being said, overall, but I think your approach is a bit too simplistic. I think the problem for me comes from two sources. First, from where does the artist get his notion of "an authentic world"? Contrary to some people's beliefs, our sensory data is not raw, unambiguous, and utter trustworthy. We interpret it on the basis of preconceived notions. ALL these notions could be said to be, ultimately, religious in nature, even if we approach the world from an atheist mindset. What do you make of Flannery O'Connor? She was pretty vehemently Catholic, and her Catholicism comes through pretty clearly in many of her stories, but she would say the same things about art and good writing you would. Is she not somehow a "real" writer? The second problem I have is with the artificial separation between religion and literature. Almost all our earliest literature was religious, and took on the form of stories or, more commonly, narrative poems. These early stories provided the foundational archetypes for all future storytelling, even non-religious storytelling. See, I don't think the real problem you have is with "religious" influences with literature. I think your real problem is with the use of literature for didactic purposes. These days, didactic literature is most commonly associated with religion, but we do see examples of it in the works of philosophers like Ayn Rand and Sartre. When a work **has to** come to a certain conclusion, or make a certain point, there's an artifical air about it, and that's what many artists like yourself -- religious and non-religious -- have serious qualms about. Jim ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]