Re: music as a process of religion


Subject: Re: music as a process of religion
AntiUtopia@aol.com
Date: Tue Jan 11 2000 - 20:28:04 EST


In a message dated 1/11/00 5:27:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jjv@caesun.msd.ray.com writes:

<< And what about Utilitarianism? Confussianism? Plato? Aristotle? To
 name a few.
    Why does hate have to be taught as well? Why is it that hate also
 springs from Religions? Find hate in philosophy.
>>

Utilitarianism doesn't value compassion per se -- as an absolute goal. It is
to be embraced or rejected on the basis of its usefulness (greatest possible
good for the greatest number of people). Neither does the Analects of
Confucious. Ritual is much more important than compassion. I'm not saying
there's no element of compassion, but it is hardly foregrounded. Confucious
has much more in common with Aristotle and the writer of Proverbs than anyone
else, actually.

I don't recall Plato's teaching on the subject, but Aristotle had a hard time
believing God could forgive (there were specific ontological reasons for
this), and in his ethics he made it pretty clear that if you were a Real Man,
you took vengeance. His ethics emphasized virtue over compassion, however.

This is getting tiresome.

Jim
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