> ok, i'm reluctant to even post this because as of late it seems as if one > runs the risk of being ripped apart or insulted when he or she dares to > submit an idea to this list (although some of the ranting i have agreed > with to an extent *like some which has been directed at the seemingly > fake and heartless JDS imposter*). Indeed! That's part of what I tried to address last night, because we've built up this virtual community, and I know that many of us will try very hard to keep it intact. So, please post away. Your ideas have value and your words are your own and personal attacks here are not welcome. > there has been so much interesting and stimulating discussion on this > list - let's not let it crumble away until all we're left with is a pile > of rubbish Bravo ... PLEASE chime in -- all of us who feel that we dare not post should stand up now and be heard -- so that you can have your say. If the naysayers outweigh the rest of us, I'm sure I can just create a new list, called "sour-bananafish" and direct the nastiness-for-the-sake-of- being-nasty in that direction. --tim o'connor