Hmmm... Seymour's suicide... Some great thoughts and theories being written in this thread (digest 41 in particular, and thanks to Brian for the reprint of Susan Stamberg's report on Salinger - I had missed it). I don't think Muriel had much to do with Seymour's death - she was just along for the ride (though Seymour's marriage to her still eludes me - setting Muriel aside, why would he marry anyone? why would he participate in the act of marriage?). I think by having the gun along on his honeymoon there was some element of premeditation to his suicide - he must have been contemplating it. I like the theory (from Beth I think) that by seeing a bananafish, the little girl takes a step towards losing her innocence. Though it also makes me think that she was just pretending to believe in bananafish like Seymour was pretending there is such a mythical creature - just making up a pretend, make-believe story. I don't know that it's a step towards losing her innocence as much as it is her just acting out a fairy tale like young children do - it's okay for little kids to pretend - it doesn't mean they're become evil adults. Do we know how old the little girl is? Given that Seymour was so smart - a genius some would say - I have always wondered why he wasn't smart enough to not commit suicide. I don't know anything about why people commit suicide - what brings them to that point - I suppose there is a fair amount of psychology involved in analyzing suicide. But Seymour seemed smart enough to figure all of that out. Ultimately, maybe he was wrapped up in a depression that not even his intellect could overcome (or recognize)... I also know nothing about Zen. What does this philosophy say about suicide? Scott