Friends, Since the story "The Inverted Forest" has been brought up, I thought this might be a good time to ask something that's been bothering me since I recently read it. For me, it was was impossible to ignore the comparison between Ford and Seymour as "major" American poets. By the time Seymour was fully developed as a character, one gets the sense that the title poet is the highest compliment Buddy could pay to anyone, almost the Western niche which would correspond to the more Eastern "occupation" of holy man. Yet to my reading, Ray Ford is far, far from this ideal. The questions that I have are: is Ray Ford a proto-Seymour destroying himself as a consequence of the depth of his feelings as evidenced by the poetic gift he possesses? is he a phony, and only a great poet in the academic sense? are his character failings unrelated to being a poet, rather to his miserable childhood? did Salinger only later develop his concept of the poet as bhodisatva? can one be a true poet and see nothing but dispair? My own feeling is that the story is not focused on the nature of the life, strugle and death of a poet (as the Seymour opus might be viewed) but rather as "misery seeking its own level" - the little boy Ray who is cast out with his destitute mother, grows up unable to love and gravitates eventually to an unnatural, adulterous, alchoholic, self-destructive relationship (which is in contrast to Corinne who is coming from a different direction). Along the way, he develops his poetic voice and finds that his audience is more than empathetic to a description of life which is comparable to a wasteland, an inverted forest. If I could ask a single question it would be: does the Salinger who molded Seymour feel that being a great poet implies having a Seymour-like spiritual outlook (and if so, then Ray Ford was either created before JDS took this position, or else was intended to be a phony), or is being a poet simply developing the eyes and voice, with the spiritual outcome highly dependent upon one's predisposition (i.e: Ray the unloved, becomes Ray the loveless), or (and this is just the first option reworded) is a poet only a poet if he can get past his own personality? (By the way, Will, I cannot see Ray Ford as Seymour without a family, rather as someone who couldn't recognize a rather large watch he received in the mail) I agree with Rod that Bunny was almost bizarre, she is so far from anyone or anything I know that I can't relate to her at all - does anyone have any experiences with this type of person? All the best, Mattis