Hey, Mattis, I should have taken more care not to even remotely imply any unintentional slur on the very capable current crop of bananafish. I haven't been away anywhere -- just that I have not been able to keep up with the Bananafish mail that dutifully goes into its own folder. It's always been a delight to read your contributions, though, and many of the current subscribers', old or new, too numerous to name. It's just a case of top of the mind (and a sleep-deprived mind at that) rattling off whatever I did. Bruce, for example, recently came out with a fresh burst of messages that, alas, after scanning cursorily, I have just put on hold to read later and respond to, for now. In re. what I said about those away writing books and so on, I think I may have been alluding to that now-not-so-new bio on JDS and missing Matt K. on the list. As for nostalgia: alas, to repeat what is certainly a cliche, even nostalgia is not the same anymore, I feel, . Surely the result of not having been out in fresh air much and other such. Not to mention, the advancing years, new interests, only so many hours competing for so much more available to read, to see, to experience, to earn a living, and so on... Far be it from me, though, to suggest that it is not possible to keep discussion on JDS alive for those so interested. Besides, I seriously have never been one with much enthusiasm for discussion per se, apart from as conversational theory -- sheer crap or priceless, as old (actually, young) Seymour would say -- though it does provide for some amusement every now and then. And there is that community feeling, of having had that shared experience and so on, too. I am not at all by any means trying to play down the significance of differing perspectives and fresh ways of seeing, and your point about not having a recent first-hand experience of the text, and hazy recollections through the filter of unreliable memory being the real culprit, I am sure, is valid enough. It's just that I haven't been compelled enough for some time to read JDS. Maybe that time will come soon. Happens to me every now and then. And even then I doubt if I would have anything revelatory or meaningful to add. Yes, I agree that if my experience of reading them is intense enough, and if I feel so compelled, I might indulge in some raving and ranting too. To be very honest, much as I like reading gossip about JDS and so on, I have never really been much enamoured by the 'critical' books on him. Passion, yes -- that I understand and relate well to. The fact that the books gripped me, held my interest, make me want to read them every now and then is reason enough for me. And the same goes for discussions and what makes them captivating. Or not. And then mileages vary, in any case, from person to person. Different strokes and all that. I realise that I am not being very cogent right now and blame it all on lack of sleep. More some other time. May I also add, in this same sleep-deprived state, my apologies to Sean? I wasn't aware that there were Microsoft programmers, or other employees, on this list. I plead defense on the basis of the weasel word "alleged". All generalizations are bad (including this one!) -- and I am sure that one is too. I am sure it is all those "divide by zero error followed by a program crash" that lead to such baseless rumours. My congratulations to Mike for his display of mathematical intelligence, and to Sequila for her creativity and intelligence. Now I must beg off and go off into my lurk-mode, to surface only perhaps to apologise for any other offense I might inadvertently have committed in this post, not the least of which is not to edit it to make it shorter... Sonny