Yeah, I appreciate the sentiments expressed, Elizabeth. The only thing I'll say is that I'll handle it any way anyone wants -- off list or on. I've read pretty much every message this list has put out from the start and have never (and I mean, Not Once) complained about off topic posts myself, so I don't feel too many qualms about this particular thread being on the list. Really, my experience has been that people who complain about off topic posts (obviously you are an exception because you're so recently back on the list) have no problems posting off topic themselves, which means their complaints are nothing more than, well, selfish :) But, like I said, I'm willing to handle it any way anyone wants. Jim Rovira Check out "Up Against the Wall" for links to numerous literature and writing resources on the internet. http://members.aol.com/antiutopia/main.htm ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.