All true, especially the part about indivuality playing more of a part in deciding our reactions to loss. But, if we aren't condemned by it, we certainly aren't encouraged to let our emotions free at a funeral, men that do are usually unscorned but are considered weaker (either in their own minds or the minds of their peers) for their untraditional show of feminity. Of course, an feast of emotion at a funeral might lead to silliness or chaos like a Lord of the Flies type gathering with accountants running around in thongs. The Sioux or Seminoles were encouraged to play, despite their loss. Funeral receptions and wakes can be beneficial to those who loved the deceased, but for the most part, it is a busy, confusing time, one that demands the deceased's loved ones to show emotional control if they don't feel like they're under control. Bills to pay, arrangements to make, flowers to receive and thank for, dinner arrangements, pretending that you accept the pity of a man who hated the deceased, smiling and thanking those who came to pay their respects - it's a hard time. Back to the example with Thor, a quasi funeral for the death of his love for his wife, was a casual attempt at looking at the brighter side. There's absolutely nothing wrong with a barbeque and friends, unless your friends are on the barbeque. I think that would entice Mr. Hannibal Bowman, that may be the reason why the pole is so firmly lodged up the Oring. ---James J Rovira <jrovira@juno.com> wrote: > > Jordie -- > > I think we feel sorrow or joy in the face of loss because of who we are, > and ascribing our reactions to social conditioning is a bit off. I do > agree that the NA ritual of grief as descrbed in your post is indeed > banal and shallow, but that's a reflection of the lack of consciously and > intelligently developed ritual in our society, a lack we experience > because we live in a society that disregards and considers taboo > "societal conditioning..." > > Jim > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com