Zooey's vows.

Jake McHenry (seymour@ktis.net)
Fri, 18 Jun 1999 12:54:32 -0500 

Can someone please help me, yet again, with the vows Zooey always muttered
aloud or internally before eating.
I don't have a copy handy as I am at work and need them almost desparately.
Thans.
-Jake
www.supermanytime.com
"High Culture for Low Brows."
-----Original Message-----
From: Thor Cameron <my_colours@hotmail.com>
To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu <bananafish@lists.nyu.edu>
Date: Friday, June 18, 1999 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: banning CATCHER


>
>OK, Cam,
>
>I'm with you the whole way except your knee-jerk use of the term "Facism".
>Facism is a form of government based on economic expansion through military
>expansion.  Although Facists have burned books, in fact, most book burnings
>have been done by non-facists, including good, old-fashioned capitolist
>American chistians.
>I'm not sure why I felt the need to defend facism, but, well,
>There it is, then.
>Thor
>
>
>>This all reminds me of an item I once read in `Mad' magazine (yes, as a
>>true postmodernist even I go lowbrow occasionally) which was a picture of
a
>>teenage boy salivating over a copy of `Catcher in the Rye' with a caption
>>like `Do those people who ban books really believe kids are going to head
>>straight to their local libraries for a bit of titillation'? Book banning
>>is akin to book burning which is akin to fascism. I've seen the moral
>>minority at work in my own country via the `Lolita' crap (which in any
case
>>was all a stunt to get a conservative independent MP onto the government's
>>side anyway) and it ain't pretty. Still, like Jason said it inspires you
to
>>read a helluva lot of fine literature you may not have thought of
otherwise
>>(:
>>
>>Camille
>>verona_beach@geocities.com
>>@ THE ARTS HOLE http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/6442
>>@ THE INVERTED FOREST http://www.angelfire.com/pa/invertedforest
>>
>>
>> > > Hello, all.
>> > >
>> > > I would like to come out in defense of the reoccuring plan to ban
>>CITR.
>>  It
>> > > is a dangerous book.  Nevermind the languge; there's worse on
>>prime-time tv.
>> > >   In fact, it is dangerous because of its subtlety and underlying
>>themes.
>> > > The same people who want to ban Salinger are the ones who find
>>independant
>> > > thinking frightening.  People shouldn't be put through the ringer of
>>new
>> > > ideas and strange thoughts.
>> > > This is the same group that hated Wycliffe, because knowledge in the
>>hands
>> > > of the public is....  unpredictable.
>> > > We need to support the idea of banning.  Not banning per se, just the
>>idea
>> > > of it.  Do you think more than a handful of people would have read
the
>> > > Bible's English trans. if the church hadn't fought it tooth-and-nail?
>> > > Thank god, (with a small g) for groups that directly affect my life
>>due
>>to
>> > > their close proximity to me, like Coloradans for Family Values.
>>Groups
>>like
>> > > this pointed my way as a youth towards books that I may have
otherwise
>> > > neglected, thanks to their banning wish list.
>> > > The old saying "It takes all kinds" is so true: these bizarros work
as
>>a
>> > > near-perfect inverse barometer.
>> > > Thank you, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, et al., you freaks have
shown
>>me
>> > > the light, or at least where I should be looking for it.
>> > >
>> > > Thor
>> >
>> > Have to agree with Thor on this one.  In High School I considered the
>> > banned book list my summer reading list.  In my high school we also had
>>a
>> > pretty crafty English teacher who had the list posted on the wall.  She
>> > kept the books in strong box in her closet.  (she used to like to show
>>the
>> > covers to the class)  Every year she'd recruit a few seniors to spread
>>the
>> > rumor that the combonation was 12-34-02 for the lock.  Inevitably
people
>> > stole books from the box.  I stole _1984_. (isn't it funny our school
>> > banned this book)  She later told me she has tons of copies of these
>>books
>> > in her garage at home that she gets from flea markets and the like.
She
>> > hopes they get stolen.  Thank you Mrs. Hornick, for understanding
simple
>> > teen psychology.
>> >
>> > -j
>
>
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