right, but princeps is from primus & capere as well, and I quote: <<princeps (leader, initiator); from primus (first) and capere (to take)>> I'm quoting Merriam Webster Dictionary ----- Original Message ----- From: <JediMars@aol.com> To: <bananafish@lists.nyu.edu> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 12:34 AM Subject: Re: "You're a prince" > <<"Prince" comes from two latin words: primus, which means "first" and capere, > which means "to take". (A prince, therefore, is one who is the first to > take.)>> > > i think the word prince comes from the latin princeps... leader/ruler >