Re: wha's like's?

Thor Cameron (my_colours@hotmail.com)
Sun, 27 Jun 1999 19:11:48 -0700 (PDT) 

Nevermind about the cigarettes & alcohol, (which are both viewed very 
differently than when these were written), but what's up with all the damned 
chicken & chicken sandwiches?
OK, nevermind, I was joking, I don't want to open that up.  As I recall, 
there was a long "chicken" thread about a year ago & for you newcommers, if 
you're interested in such things, there was some quite scholarly thoughts 
about JDS's chicken appearances.  They can, I believe, still be found in the 
'Nanafish archives.
your cigarette-free vegetarian correspondant,
Thor


>On Fri, Jun 25, 1999 at 05:24:51PM -0400, Paul Kennedy wrote:
>
> > PS--I've typed a similarly de-alcoholized salutation to my good buddy
> > Tim.... on this very list....  I'm beginning to wonder whether the 
>entire
> > bananafishbowl is TT....
> > Say it isn't so, Rick! (Will?  Thor?  Somebody?....)
>
>I think Will is still AWOL in the course of moving and taking a
>vacation.
>
>Based on some previous toasts -- ah, posts -- I'd say there are not so
>many teetotalers here (I had to decline a sip with poor Paul, who had to
>endure me soberly!), but that leads to an interesting topic that carries
>us back to the usual subject: what kind of appearances do alcohol make
>in Salinger's work?  We see Holden, of course, numbing himself to the
>extent that waiters will allow, as he makes his descent into his own
>hell; we see classic Cheever suburban bottlework ("Uncle Wiggily"
>and "Pretty Mouth" and "The Young Folks"); but drinking is nowhere
>near as pervasive as cigarettes are.
>
>It seems to me that Salinger's drinkers are either sloppy (like Holden)
>or a shorthand sign of their times (the characters in the stories
>mentioned above).  He doesn't seem to focus much on that misty area in
>the middle of the field, where the subtle narrative touch of his
>stories would be put intriguingly to use.
>
>--tim
>


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