Scottie, I have to disagree with The Times. I'm probably not the one to speak on behalf of verity, but I believe that Hitler, unlike Clinton and Blair, promised not to attack any other lands but repeatedly violated the Treaty of Versailles, including the '38 invasion of Sudetenland. As well, I don't think that Lincoln intended to exterminate the secessionists, but rather to reunite the Union. I've truly enjoyed the recent mystical definitions of an American as well as the follow-up wits and wisdoms of some of the great minds on this list. However, in as much simplicity as I can bear, it sickens me. An American isn't a nicely phrased thought. An American is simply a person as much as everyone else--perhaps arrogant or perhaps altruistic, but despite that, he or she is still a person. Nothing more. And without trying to downgrade the issues in Kosovo, I already hear about the attrocities and so does everyone else on the list on a daily basis. And I think it is an attrocity in itself for children to be given such factual and yet such false opinions of war. I subscribe to this list as one of my few escapes from the world. Is it me, or have adults forgotten that their conceptions directly affect the conceptions of children? Although, perhaps my thoughts are the example of the personal reality in which we, children, live. Which brings me to my Salinger question: does Salinger use children with an acceptance of social reality or personal reality? I'm sure that most common response I'll get will support personal reality, but is there an argument to show children having a much keener understanding of reality than the adult-world would like to admit? Mike