<<I don't see where being curmudgeonly and conceited is commensurate with being elightened or even being on your way to enlightenment. It don't even see where being mysterious is part of being enlightened. That's part of the *image* of being enlightened. Probably the same sort of thing that Sato objected to in the misleading translation. >> Hmmmmmmmmmmmm? Perhaps we should see if we can get a word with the immortal, um, I believe his name is M.C.A. from that group that all the kids love, the Beastie Boys. I hear he was buddhist when buddhist tweren't cool (just like Ted Turner was cable when cable wasn't cool [but I always considered cable to be VERY cool as it allowed me to watch Space Giants]). But yeah, I have always loved the stories of J.D. Salinger but his pretentiousness has always made me want to yank a knot in his arse. I mean, I thought being buddhist was about extinguishing the ego. Sounds like his ego is all over the damn place. Okay, I think I hear mom calling. The toast must be ready. Joey