Re: "The Good Girl" and Graduate School

Just saw The Royal Tennenbaums and loved it :). There's a resemblance to the
Glass family there in that we have a small family of genius children, but they
seem to have neuroses a bit different from most of the Glasses. I don't really
see Gwyneth Paltrow's character as a Franny at all -- she's too jaded. She
acts like she was sexually abused AND terribly neglected. The incest theme in
that movie is pretty interesting...but don't see a hint of it in Salinger.

Gene Hackman stole the show ;). And that's even with Angelica Houston opposite
him -- what a feat.

Seems like this came up recently. One post described the children as being
whiny, I think -- more crybaby than genius. I think genuis was second to the
fact that the kids were sooo neglected by their father and raised in such a
screwed up environment...as if to say, even brillant kids will just go to
pieces in a home like this.

Jim

"Murray, Miranda" wrote:

> Amber,
>
> I would not suggest Pennsylvania State University...regarding the film "The
> Good Girl", I haven't seen it yet but it looks mildly interesting. How
> would you rate it? On the subject of Salinger influence in films, did
> anyone enjoy "The Royal Tenenbaums"? Any thoughts?
>
> Miranda
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raley, Amber [mailto:araley@agnesscott.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 8:23 AM
> To: 'm e g h a n '; 'bananafish@roughdraft.org '
> Subject: "The Good Girl" and Graduate School
>
> Meghan et al.,
>
> You statements seem to almost describe the Holden character (Tom is his
> slave name) from the film "The Good Girl." Did anyone else see this movie
> and have any thoughts about the strong Salinger connection? It was a bit
> overboard in my opinion. Maybe that was the point?
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Amber
>
> P.S. Non-Salinger material to follow. I will (hopefully) be going into an
> Industrial/Organizational Psychology PhD program next year. To all of the
> resident academics are any of you familiar with the 'atmosphere' of any of
> my top 10 choices for Graduate school?
> 1. Pennsylvania State University
> 2. Bowling Green State University
> 3. Saint Louis University
> 4. University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
> 5. University of Connecticut
> 6. Colorado State University
> 7. Portland State University
> 8. Texas A&M University
> 9. Rice University
> 10. University of California, Berkeley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: m e g h a n
> To: bananafish@roughdraft.org
> Sent: 9/3/2002 8:53 PM
> Subject: Re: intelligence of the author vs. intelligence of the characters
>
> >I actually feel the same way you do about Catcher and the Glass stories
> (I
> >get a lot more out of the Glass stories). . .just, if you want to judge
> >Salinger's influence, there's just no getting around or beyond Catcher.
>
> I agree also. What gets me about "Catcher" is that (this may be
> selfish)it's
> not Salinger's best work, yet it's taught in high schools, which gets it
> a
> lot of exposure. Then you have kids full of real or imagined angst who
> are
> like, man that book is me! I can relate! And they then credit Salinger
> as
> their favorite author.. without ever reading any of his other (better)
> work.
> It's just given too much credit. The selfish part comes in because I
> first
> read Catcher when I was 13, I had seen it in a bookstore and made my mom
> buy
> it. Fast forward three years, it's being taught in english and there's
> 100
> kids or however many in my class saying how much they love it.. when
> they
> probably never would have read it on their own. I guess I should hope
> that
> someone reads Catcher in english class, and then reads Salinger's other
> work
> and falls in love with it like I did, and then I can thank Catcher for
> that.
>
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