In a message dated 9/17/99 5:29:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, verona_beach@hotpop.com writes: << No, there's definitely a reference in there to the fact that the character of Teddy is `based' on Seymour - it's somewhere in S:AI which, I am chagrined to admit, I don't currently have a copy of. Buddy speaks about how although the two characters are physically different, Teddy was sort of pieced together with equivalencies to aspects of Seymour. Can anyone help me out here? P.S. I am equally chagrined to admit I know next to nothing about Schopenhauer. For an anti-intellectual Salinger can sure make some high-falutin references (: Camille >> I remember the reference the same way you do, but can't find it... Jim PS RE Inverted Forest...I just went to a friend's website and found out that it's a reference in the Upanishads to the Universe -- whose roots are in heaven and the branches/leaves are the earth. Sheesh...I never knew that :)