*deep blush* I should of course have offered my apologies to an old parody by one Richard Jaco in The Faber Book of Parodies, not to mention the Bard himself, or our father of this church that we worship in -- which is what my contribution was, just to fill in the details about him. Plenty of scope there for improvement in that, I'd say, off hand. And Bruce, talking of timelines, my page has one adapted freely from Warren French, just haven't updated any of that stuff in years: http://members.tripod.com/~SundeepDougal/dckc.html though I do remember filling in details from Hamilton and other sources, but not sure what it looks like anymore. Sonny