In a message dated 9/24/99 10:46:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rbowman@indigo.ie writes: << All we see, of course, Colin, is what you publish here. You tell us it was infinitely worse 20 years ago. Have you considered those 38 agents might still have a point? Scottie B. >> Come on, come on, from what I've heard from publishers across the boards the SITUATION was described pretty well by Colin :) What people post to listserves and what they put out when they're Really writing are two different things... Jim