In a message dated 9/24/99 6:58:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rbowman@indigo.ie writes: << I simply find it difficult to believe that what you would presumably call a REAL writer can easily put his name to conscious crap. And I STILL think that if I'd been turned down by 38 - thirty eight - agents I'd be less than wholly confident about the value - or at least the marketability - of my offerings. Scottie B. >> Ah, come on. You don't have to be a Hemingway or a Fitzgerald to be a REAL writer :). And they wrote their share of crap....the publishing process itself has dressed them up and set them out quite nicely for us. Elie Wiesel had far more than 38 rejections for "Night." Jim