Thanks Scottie, I've not yet read the piece but I have my probs with "answers" to lit probs that offer a system of thought as THE key to the text...Although your post is more of a direct rejection of Jung-"ism," and to be honest, a rejection of LSD to "cure" mental probs (as someone who tripped in the early seventies, I can report great enjoyment and forgotten insight and a conviction that youth kept me sane but ingesting such psychoactive drugs now would make me even crazier...), I think you are right to reject the fact of an underground tunnel between jung and holden...but I am not certain assigning holden a freudian subway line is any better...James Bryan does much to support the freudian link and I tend to agree with many of his points, but I'm hesitant to make the link directly. I have the same prob with thinking Vedanta Hinduism can explain Seymour...will