Last thing for today on a buddha-related thought: "See more glass" -- or, "Does the person see the glass as half empty or half full?" I've always thought that was a dumb-ass question, because it is both. I know I'm overreacting to a harmless little metaphor/shorthand for optimism/pessimism, and I don't even know what my point was supposed to be. Sorry. I guess you should expect some dualism from somebody with a birthdate of 1/1/1919. rick