Subject: RE: how baywatch changed my life
From: horanp (horanp@kenyon.edu)
Date: Sat Jul 28 2001 - 15:32:30 GMT
More to come, just a word: "Pogue Mahone" (various spellings) is Irish for
"Kiss my ass." My brother wouldn't tell me whether "Pogue" meant "kiss" or
"ass."
>===== Original Message From "Tim O'Connor" <tim@roughdraft.org> =====
>>I LOVE the Pogues. For more traditional music you should listen to The
>>Chieftans as well.
>
>The Pogues are wonderful, or were, until Shane MacGowan was dismissed
>and went on to create the Popes. (The original Pogues are still
>around and recording, but I haven't heard any of their post-Shane
>music.) They create wonderful music and use the most unlikely
>instruments, like penny whistles and very simple traditional Irish
>instruments.
>
>However, it was always terribly sad to see Shane wreck himself with
>drink. I myself am a teetotaler -- not out of morality or even
>issues of long-term health as much as it is because I don't like the
>way I feel after I've had a drink. (The one exception is that I
>occasionally have a bit of red wine when I'm in Paris; somehow, it
>seems unnatural NOT to have a little wine in Paris. I say this in
>case I've ever shared a drink with you in that, my second-favorite
>city; I don't want you to call me a hypocrite!) But Shane ... I've
>seen the band perform many times, and it's heartbreaking to see him
>fall around the stage with a bottle of Jameson's in his paw, and
>watch him become more and more incoherent as the evening goes on.
>
>He's a phenomenal songwriter, and I admired the politics of the
>Pogues when he was with them, and he did some lovely duets with the
>singer Kirsty MacColl (who tragically died a few months ago in a
>horrible accident), and I had hoped that married life would rein in
>his drinking, because there's nothing heroic in doing a Dylan Thomas
>number on your liver and your brain, but it doesn't look as if that
>is going to happen. (This year, he and his wife did a book together
>called A DRINK WITH SHANE MACGOWAN that, if anything, glorified the
>hard-drinking, creative-thanks-to-all-the-booze lifestyle that he
>seems to live.)
>
>Anyhow, good luck to the Pogues and to poor Shane's liver. JDS may
>smoke like he yearns for lung troubles, but at least he seems to have
>avoided "the thirsty muse."
>
>--tim
>
>P.S. Trivia question that I regretfully confess has nothing to do
>with Salinger: what does the band's original name, Pogue Mahone,
>mean, and why was it changed to "The Pogues"?
>
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