Jim wrote: > I see where you're coming from RE non-linear narrative. What Holden does > is talk in loops. Also the book is very episodic, which tends to be typical of these texts which are usually divided into lessons and/or discussions with different teachers. Which is in a way a linear structure but not your traditional `cause and effect' one. I'm very interested that you say that this `loop' effect is characteristic of Eastern speech/thought, which is something I never knew! > I've only reread the first two chapters or so and BOY I wonder how Warren > French could so easily dismiss the idea that Holden was in a Cal. > sanitarium. Yes... but ... well, this interpretation always annoys me because it's so damn reductionist and literal. It's sort of like when I tell some anecdote and come to what is clearly the end of the anecdote and the listener says `Then what happened?' I feel like `Does anything need to have happened next' ? It just doesn't bother me so much in the grand scheme of the story. I tend to think that maybe Salinger is throwing us another curve-ball similar to the one I suggested with Mr Antolini (and also possibly with `Franny', come to think of it) I'm beginning to notice a pattern wherein there's an obvious answer bubbling just below the surface - to wit, Mr Antolini is a pervert, Seymour is a pedophile, Franny is pregnant, Holden is crazy. But there seems to be so much more to it than that; it seems too facile to leave it at this level of obviousness. Surely JDS would never be so obvious. I wonder if such features are put in there as I suggested the Mr Antolini episode was - to sort of separate the phonies from the non-phonies. I think we were having a similar discussion to this on the topic of Holden's madness awhile back, and everyone was delving into the textbooks to see if Holden's belief that he was disappearing was an obvious hallmark of a schitzophrenic or manic depressive or what have you, when someone (I'm afraid I can't remember who) came out with the most beautiful answer which completely shelved all the mumbo jumbo and gave an answer which was totally symbolic and utterly perfect and just totally washed all the intellectualism out the door - which, I'm assuming, given JDS's distrust of the ol' section man, is just what he intended. Here's a new one - inspired by listening to Sonic Youth's `Song for Karen' [Carpenter] - `I feel like I'm getting smaller/Disappearing every day/But I look through the window/and I'm bigger in every way' - was Holden anorexic? Camille verona_beach@geocities.com @ THE ARTS HOLE http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/6442 @ THE INVERTED FOREST http://www.angelfire.com/pa/invertedforest