On the discussion of who is censoring whom, we can, of course, through examples and counter-examples back and forth. It would just be a matter of which side's intolerance was better documented, and I think from your post there's no question about how that'd turn out :) But Yes, I do need to provide the link. I think that lecture would be a good place to start. Tell ya what, here's one -- http://members.aol.com/evassembly/aesth.htm. It should be a link to the main aesthetics page, and from there you should be able to link to the lecture transcript. IF that fails, go to index.htm and click on the Aesthetics link. Jim PS Arthur Miller is hardly a good reference here -- OF COURSE any modern take on the Puritans is going to present them as mean-spirited jackasses. Many of them were. But that's more a stereotype than the truth. There were two different brands of Puritans that emigrated to America -- one set was inept, broke and baffled. But gentle. The other set were the ones who damn near took over England. Competent, intelligent, organized...and not so nice :) Just try to imagine a modern Quaker censoring anyone, and I think you'd get the picture. PPS -- the FK below is Fred Kemp. It's a quote from a post from an e-mail will forwarded from another mailing list. It just killed me :) "The written word is a power of such magnitude that only pedants would try to reduce it to rules. Or the French." --F.K. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]