Re: Defending Vonnegut

Florie Sommers (writeflorie@hotmail.com)
Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:37:48 -0800 (PST) 

Jim,

Please disregard my last e-mail to you. This is exactly the point I 
wanted you to address.

You know hookers?

Florie


>From: blah b b blah <jrovira@juno.com>
>Reply-To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>Subject: Defending Vonnegut
>Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 17:22:42 -0500 (EST)
>
>What happens to beautiful women in this society, if they are 
uneducated,
>is that they only have one card to play, and that's their bods and 
their
>smiles.  Flirt here, bat eyes there, put out when it's really necessary
>and may was well enjoy yourself if you can, a girl does what she has to
>in order to get ahead...
>
>I know a few of these.  The worst of them are hookers, the best usually
>marry pretty rich.  It depends on the level of self respect and her 
life
>experiences.
>
>But you educate that woman, and she learns she has more going for her
>than her bod, and that she can make her own way without being anyone's
>victim.  She may still have to prostitute herself in some ways, but not
>any more than any man has to in order to get ahead, and not in any
>serious, loss of self respect way.
>
>So yeah, I can see how Vonnegut would say everything stops if you 
educate
>a beautiful woman.  It's a pity he didn't have the patience to 
understand
>and appreciate a beautiful, educated woman and know what makes her
>"clocks tick."  Just takes a little bit a patience and paying 
attention.
>
>Now, I have a further question...did "Vonnegut" say that, or a 
character
>in one of his novels?  There is a difference, you know...
>
>Jim
>
>
>
>  
>
><writeflorie@hotmail.com> writes:
>>"thinking about beautiful [intelligent] women distracts the male mind"
>>
>>I was hoping that this is what he meant because the idea that a 
>>beautiful woman isn't worth anything if she's educated made me puke 
>>right here in my seat.
>>
>>
>>>From: BOWNELINE@aol.com
>>>Reply-To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>>>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>>>Subject: Re: Sunday Times article
>>>Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:40:44 -0500 (EST)
>>>
>>>I suppose that he means that beautiful woman do no put out anymore if 
>>
>>your
>>>educate them.  But it is a clumsy analogy.   Can you suggest how to
>>>restructure it, using the same terms, to better convey the apparent 
>>meaning.
>>>Certainly not "A beautiful woman is like a fine swiss watch, if you 
>>pour honey
>>>on her she will stop working."   That  makes more sense that "A fine 
>>swiss
>>>watch is like a beautiful woman,  if you educate it it will stop 
>>working."  I
>>>think the analogy cannot be rehabilitated.  My theory is that 
>>Vonnegut's brain
>>>wasn't functioning properly when he stated it: "Vonnegut's brain 
>>works 
>>like a
>>>fine swiss watch into which honey has been poured when he is thinking 
>>
>>about
>>>the implications of educating beautiful women." Or "thinking about 
>>beautiful
>>>women distracts the male mind"  Who could disaggree with that??
>>>JTB
>>
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