I propose that someone write to old Kurt and ask him personally just what in the hell he meant my the quote that was attributed to him. Kurt Vonnegut c/o Donald C. Farber Hartman & Craven LLP 460 Park Avenue New York, NY. 10022 I've got his home phone number at my house and can post it later this evening if anyone really wants to get serious about it. (I called late one evening and Jill answered and told me he was asleep.) -Jake