Re: Defending Vonnegut
blah b b blah (jrovira@juno.com)
Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:31:04 -0500 (EST)
You won't believe the people I know :)
And be careful about shaking my hand, you don't know where it's been...
heh
Jim
On Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:37:48 -0800 (PST) Florie Sommers
<writeflorie@hotmail.com> writes:
>Jim,
>
>Please disregard my last e-mail to you. This is exactly the point I
>wanted you to address.
>
>You know hookers?
>
>Florie
>
>
>>From: blah b b blah <jrovira@juno.com>
>>Reply-To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>>Subject: Defending Vonnegut
>>Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 17:22:42 -0500 (EST)
>>
>>What happens to beautiful women in this society, if they are
>uneducated,
>>is that they only have one card to play, and that's their bods and
>their
>>smiles. Flirt here, bat eyes there, put out when it's really
>necessary
>>and may was well enjoy yourself if you can, a girl does what she has
>to
>>in order to get ahead...
>>
>>I know a few of these. The worst of them are hookers, the best
>usually
>>marry pretty rich. It depends on the level of self respect and her
>life
>>experiences.
>>
>>But you educate that woman, and she learns she has more going for her
>>than her bod, and that she can make her own way without being
>anyone's
>>victim. She may still have to prostitute herself in some ways, but
>not
>>any more than any man has to in order to get ahead, and not in any
>>serious, loss of self respect way.
>>
>>So yeah, I can see how Vonnegut would say everything stops if you
>educate
>>a beautiful woman. It's a pity he didn't have the patience to
>understand
>>and appreciate a beautiful, educated woman and know what makes her
>>"clocks tick." Just takes a little bit a patience and paying
>attention.
>>
>>Now, I have a further question...did "Vonnegut" say that, or a
>character
>>in one of his novels? There is a difference, you know...
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>><writeflorie@hotmail.com> writes:
>>>"thinking about beautiful [intelligent] women distracts the male
>mind"
>>>
>>>I was hoping that this is what he meant because the idea that a
>>>beautiful woman isn't worth anything if she's educated made me puke
>>>right here in my seat.
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: BOWNELINE@aol.com
>>>>Reply-To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>>>>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
>>>>Subject: Re: Sunday Times article
>>>>Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:40:44 -0500 (EST)
>>>>
>>>>I suppose that he means that beautiful woman do no put out anymore
>if
>>>
>>>your
>>>>educate them. But it is a clumsy analogy. Can you suggest how to
>>>>restructure it, using the same terms, to better convey the apparent
>
>>>meaning.
>>>>Certainly not "A beautiful woman is like a fine swiss watch, if you
>
>>>pour honey
>>>>on her she will stop working." That makes more sense that "A
>fine
>>>swiss
>>>>watch is like a beautiful woman, if you educate it it will stop
>>>working." I
>>>>think the analogy cannot be rehabilitated. My theory is that
>>>Vonnegut's brain
>>>>wasn't functioning properly when he stated it: "Vonnegut's brain
>>>works
>>>like a
>>>>fine swiss watch into which honey has been poured when he is
>thinking
>>>
>>>about
>>>>the implications of educating beautiful women." Or "thinking about
>>>beautiful
>>>>women distracts the male mind" Who could disaggree with that??
>>>>JTB
>>>
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