In a message dated 98-05-13 13:39:42 EDT, you write: << To look away from the biographical stuff for a while: I think it's an important point to recognize the obvious difference in style- language and composition- at least when it comes to Kerouac and Salinger. Tiril >> Tim makes an excellent point above, Salinger's writing is so precise. He is a true craftsman, in the best possible sense. That automatic train of thought stuff probably drives JD nuts. If the reading list in Hapworth is any reflection of the author's own tastes in literature ( and I believe it is at least somewhat reflective) I don't see the Beats as a logical extension of it. It's just my impression, but I always felt that Salinger took more than a few shots at the type of lifestyle embraced by the Beats. The "unskilled guitarists, Dharma bums" line has already been mentioned in this string. Is the guy Holden meets for drinks in the bar another shot? His pseudo- intellectual talk of things being more Eastern. This sounds like Hippie/Beat Zen Buddhism to me; all Goodies, with no discipline. As far as the Beats spawning the American Zen boom ( the Eastern philosophy Chair in Hell I suppose?) I disagree very strongly. Ginsberg's "practice" strikes me as the worst sort of sophistry. I think the newfound awareness of Zen in America in the fifties is probably due more to the success of Daisetz Suzuki, then these Beats. Just my thoughts on the subject. Robert