Speaking of ancient Chinese poets, in S:AI Buddy tells us about Seymour,hooked by "P'ang, the wonder of the eleventh century." Now to be called the wonder of the eleventh c.--or any century for that fact--seems quite an accomplish. Trouble is, have never been able to track down a "P'ang." Don't know if it is a transliteration problem or what? Any ideas out there? --Bruce