> Can anyone show me this "unconscious" ? How do we know it even exists? > > Jim > There's an interesting movement in philosophy of mind to the effect that folk psychology and concepts such as the "unconscious" are utterly inadequate and ultimately problematic for explaining the mind. Such people would go so far as to say that no, there is no unconscious, nor minds for that matter. =) Perhaps you're an eliminativist then. There are worse things to be. =) I tend to take this stance a tad drastic. But, like most intellectual movements fostered by otherwise very intelligent thinkers there probably is a bit of truth or at least a bit of profoundness behind elimativism. I think "unconscious" and other such terms are useful as long as we realize that they are not pre-existent, neccessary things but merely concepts that we create and then name. In that lieu, afore-mentioned experimentation does reveal the unconscious in the trivial but valid manner of finding something interesting and then labeling it "unconscious." S. .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. : Steven Gabriel -- sgabriel@willamette.edu : '-'-'-'-'-'-'-'-'-'-'-'-'-'-'-'-'-'-'-'-'-'-'-'-'