AntiUtopia@aol.com wrote: > Ok, like Elizabeth, I have a problem with the word "generates" in the above > paragraph. If we define experiences such as "happiness" biologically, for > example -- a feeling of euphoria experienced as certain hormones are released > in area "x" of the brain -- well, animals can experience something we would > name "happiness" but they would not. But in the above paragraph it's the > "sign system" that generates "cognition, emotion, tactile perception," etc., > and not language...meaning language is something other than this basic "sign > system," a subset of it of sorts, an expression of it. I understand this objection. Still, I urge the dark side. C'mon over. It's fun here. Anything goes. I'm not quite willing to relinquish "generates," even when it comes to tactile perception. I don't think we can really experience tactile stimulation without assigning or attaching a significance to it. Maybe the same for animals, too. They have ears; they can hear. > I think pretty much everyone else has been talking about > something made up of words :) Yes. An unfortunate oversight early on. Apologies. > Regarding your picking, yes, SoSure did define a sign as made up of two > elements, connecting a sound and a concept. He did break up the two elements > into signification and signal, which in turn are distinct from the object > itself... Even beyond this, though, there's an important distinction between what Ss calls "linguistic signs" and other "signs," like flags on ships (_Cors_, part I). But maybe it's all for naught at this point... -- Matt Kozusko mkozusko@parallel.park.uga.edu