Re: Cap's bad old days :)
Camille Scaysbrook (verona_beach@geocities.com)
Sat, 27 Mar 1999 15:36:06 +1100
Sean Draine wrote:
> If forced to make this choice, I'd cut whichever program drew the least
> interest and support from the community it served. If the kids want to
learn
> about art, give them art I say! If they prefer balance sheets, well, I
guess
> we give them balance sheets.
But here again we have the analogy I used before - does the least bums on
seats mean that it's the worst play? Is the book that sells twenty copies
automatically crap compared to the one that sells twenty million? Obviously
the answer is no. For my money, in 85% of circumstances the one that
everyone goes to see is generally the one with the least artistic
integrity.
The trouble with capitalism and art is that one will never coexist happily
with the other. One is conservative and stodgy and doesn't want to take
*any* rishs. The other is imaginative and original and wants to take risks
by the dozen. Neither side is ever going to please the other all of the
time - i.e. artistic integrity *or* good box office. So you always get a
compromise.
And who likes compromises?
Camille
verona_beach@geocities.com
@ THE ARTS HOLE http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/6442
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>
> BTW, if anyone's interested in viewing a large capitalist-supported art
> collection, you can do so at
> http://www.microsoft.com/magazine/guides/gallery/.
>
> -Sean
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Florie Sommers [mailto:writeflorie@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 1999 9:37 AM
> To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
> Subject: RE: Cap's bad old days :)
>
>
> Sean, What do you cut first in school funding, art classes or business?
>
>
> >From: "Sean Draine (Exchange)" <seandr@Exchange.Microsoft.com>
> >Reply-To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
> >To: "'bananafish@lists.nyu.edu'" <bananafish@lists.nyu.edu>
> >Subject: RE: Cap's bad old days :)
> >Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:27:16 -0800
> >
> >
> >And again, we have art pitted against capitalism, as if these were
> mutually
> >exclusive. Just to balance the discussion, let me point out that
> certain
> >corporations spend large sums of money on the arts by purchasing
> thousands
> >of paintings and sculptures and by matching employee donations.
> >
> >I agree that the government should fund art, but it's not clear to me
> why we
> >should expect some grant committee to do a better job of rewarding good
> art
> >than we, the actual consumers of art, could do.
> >
> >The suggestion that art should have a higher funding priority than
> corporate
> >bailouts is rather amusing. "Sorry, kids, but it's porridge again for
> dinner
> >until mommy and daddy find another job. But the good news is, tonight
> we're
> >going to see the Academy for Mime and Interpretive Dance deconstruct
> the
> >semantic and emotional space surrounding economic disenfranchisement in
> the
> >context of a Marxist interpretation of history."
> >
> >And yes, who you know is just as important as what you know. We're a
> >dreadfully social species.
> >
> >-Sean
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Florie Sommers [mailto:writeflorie@hotmail.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, March 25, 1999 7:58 AM
> >To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
> >Subject: Re: Cap's bad old days :)
> >
> >
> >Matt-
> >
> >I agree that there should be equal funding (if not more) for the arts
> >and corp. bail-outs. They should also be seen as equally important to
> >the county.
> >
> >Florie
> >
> >>From: Matthew_Stevenson@baylor.edu
> >>Reply-To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
> >>To: bananafish@lists.nyu.edu
> >>Subject: Re: Cap's bad old days :)
> >>Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:05:44 -0600
> >>
> >>Camille sides with Ms. Virginia Woolf. Artists need a "room of their
> >own" in
> >>which to practice and perfect their genius.
> >>Jim takes the side of a professor I once had who pointed out that
> >Chaucer
> >>never had this "room of his own", nor did Hemingway.
> >>
> >>I for one feel that if the government is going to spend millions
> >bailing out
> >>corporations and farmers it shouldn't begrudge the huddled masses a
> >federally
> >>funded arts community...Matt Stevenson
> >>
> >>On Thu, 25 Mar 1999 16:18:28 +1100 verona_beach@geocities.com (Camille
> >>Scaysbrook) wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>Jim wrote:
> >>>> Talent -- no, genius -- finds a way in any system, and more often
> >than
> >>>> not it's a pretty difficult way.
> >>>
> >>>Yeah ... so what happens to the 90% who fall along the way? Even
> >geniuses
> >>>get sick and tired and need to pay the rent. It's a very
> >over-romanticised
> >>>view of genius for you to take - more and more I realise it's not
> what
> >you
> >>>know but who; there's so much tosh that gets out there, gets
> >published, and
> >>>somehow finds its way into millions of hands that sometimes I think
> >that
> >>>true talent - that is, originality, danger and innovation - is the
> >direct
> >>>opposite of an advantage.
> >>>
> >>>Camille
> >>>verona_beach@geocities.com
> >>>@ THE ARTS HOLE http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/6442
> >>>@ THE INVERTED FOREST http://www.angelfire.com/pa/invertedforest
> >>
> >>
> >
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